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Monday, September 25, 2006

Demolition Theory at WTC "REALLY" Starting To Get On My Nerves

After reading the "Aftermath..." book on Friday night and looking at all the GZ pics and being reminded AGAIN that the debris workers came from all over the state of NY and indeed all over the USA, it strikes me AGAIN as so completely ridiculous that any demolition equipment was supposedly used at WTC.

First of all: There were almost 20,000 human body parts or remnants of human bodies recovered from the site. Since human tissue is softer than anything a bomb can be made out of, it would stand to obvious REASON that if any thermite canisters or bombs or incindiary devices were planted ANYWHERE it the WTC towers, that SOME small piece of ONE of those bombs or any bomb-making material would have been found at the debris site. No wires, no timers, no evidence of any demolition equipment ANYWHERE in the millions of debris pieces. HHHHMMMMMMMMM.

This is ESPECIALLY true for the CTers who say that the dust puffs out of the windows as the floors collapsed were made by bombs. If there were THAT MANY BOMBS, then SURELY some remnants of that would have been found in the debris pile - right? Right?

Nothing of the sort was reported found by ANYONE. All the hundreds if not thousands of cleanup workers, cops, firemen, iron workers, construction workers - NOT ONE OF THEM FOUND ANY TRACES OF ANY BOMBS ANYWHERE IN THE DEBRIS PILE.

Does that not ring as a huge CLUE to the clueless "inside jobbers" that there must have been NO BOMBS and NO THERMITE if nothing was found in the pile?

Did Rove and Cheney use "invisible bombs" to go along with the "invisible ninjas" who planted the bombs and the "invisible wires" they used to detonate the bombs and the "invisible location" from which all the bombs were detonated?

Freakin DUH.


  • 20,000 body parts? fire blows people up alot i guess.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:54 AM  

  • Um, no, but a million pound building collapsing on top of you sorta has a "shredding" effect. Ya think?

    By Blogger Larry, at 10:04 AM  

  • i guess but it did fall straight down, and bone fragments where found on tops of the surrounding buildings even years later.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:12 AM  

  • what do you think of the ladder 15 radio call, that says "we have got two isolated pockets of fire, we should be able to knock it down with two lines, radio that, 78th floor."

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:14 AM  

  • http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=32126560&postID=115920789690708328

    if you really care, check this out.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:29 AM  

  • http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&hl=en

    or this rather...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:30 AM  

  • if you watch that last one and still think we know everything... well then you didn't watch it lol

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:32 AM  

  • Why do you get mad? It's not like everyone is saying you blew up the towers, it was the elitist assholes man, no reason to be mad just do something about it!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:58 AM  

  • Your a military man right? What do you think about LJ Chavez? heard of em? He's one of those whistleblowers that no one is protecting anymore. very interesting what he talks about...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:01 AM  

  • Mr Chavez has been exposed as a LIAR.

    His DD-214 shows that he was never in Afghanistan.


    By Blogger Larry, at 11:05 AM  

  • why did jeb bush declare martial law in florida 3 days before 9-11?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:07 AM  

  • uh what i listened to he never claimed to be in afghanistan... but rather in florida...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:08 AM  

  • Alex Jones has his dd-214 automated nov88 certificate of honorable discharge. Just heard it on his show yesturday, honestly didn't know what a dd-214 was till today -=D

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:12 AM  

  • From the Alex Jones radio interview:

    Chavez: Yeah, I was deployed to Afghanistan for 8 months. About 2 weeks after 9/11 happened. I was there in support of the United States SOCOM, which if everybody has played the game SOCOM they are actually a real entity, located all at MacDill Airforce Base, and I provide them with communications, for the special ops teams. We flew into Kabul Airport, we were actually under fire as we flew in.

    Chavez: Yeah, and I thought I was going to hunt bin Laden, and that was clearly not the objective of that war. I still don't know what the objective is. Other than to subliminally condition the people.

    Alex Jones: Can you say 400 billion in opium a year coming out of there?

    Chavez: Exactly, or the pipeline. A lot of people are like, "what pipeline?"

    Alex Jones: Unoco

    Chavez: I had to pull roving guard to make sure nobody blew up that pipeline. That was where our billions of dollars for the war went. (unintelligible) pull patrols.

    By Blogger Larry, at 11:13 AM  

  • ok, so where is your evidence? you seem to always lack that... what gives?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:15 AM  

  • since, i see your atleast paying attention, why don't you ever show real evidence, your not really some idiot.... what are you true modivations? Is this really a disinfo up going this badly? Because if it is, you guys are really screwed more than i originally thought..

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:17 AM  

  • Here is the only part of the NIST report I need to read:


    By Blogger Larry, at 11:27 AM  

  • No, you need to look at the whole report, not little tidbits. Maybe that's why your still here? You just look at what makes you feel better about the situation rather than everything?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:44 PM  

  • On the NIST report:

    Nothing in the page I referenced changes anything in the rest of the report - it just answers questions that the CTers had for NIST after the report was issued.

    The NIST report is the most detailed examination of the WTC events that currently exists.

    If they say only 5-7 of the core supports were damaged, then they are as correct as anyone else.

    They also say the building was not bombed.

    By Blogger Larry, at 12:53 PM  

  • How could you say I hate America, when I am defending the fact that


    why the CTers are saying exactly that?

    By Blogger Larry, at 12:55 PM  

  • Anonymous,

    You post a video that still brings up the steel melting canard? And you call that evidence?

    You need to actually study the real evidence, not just take for granted videos and web sites you find on the internet. For a guy who puts up a front about being inquisitive and knowledgeable, you sure are failing at applying critical thinking to the fantasies others are passing around.

    Larry, that Google video was full of the same canards the conspiracy fantasists have been passing around for so long now. So don't bother. I couldn't make it past the "steel melting" stuff; it's yet another video chocked full of what fantasists think are "gotcha!" questions that in reality have mundane, logical answers. In short, stuff you've already seen and heard elsewhere, and stuff that's been answered elsewhere.

    By Blogger Elmondohummus, at 7:53 PM  

  • How is saying america didn't attack herself helping? We've killed 300,000 citizens of the world, what 3,000 of our own now? 30,000 wounded and disformed? Yeah your saving America. Oh our economic future just went down the shitter too? Yeah, thanks for the help asshole! NORAD STOOD DOWN FOR 2 hours! Are you guys morons? It's obvious, the whole world knows it... except for you!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:53 PM  

  • /yawn @ elmond

    Whatever canard you may be refering to doesn't change the facts across the board... I'm sorry your incapable of logical reasoning or don't care enough to know the truth. But, it still doesn't change anything, just one more idiot in a world full of em.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:57 PM  

  • The "canard" is the mistaken continuous references to steel's melting point, ignoring the fact that steel doesn't have to melt to lose it's ability to bear weight.

    The other canard is that molten steel was found on the ground weeks after the fact. One: None of you all have ever produced any primary evidence it was steel.Only pictures of glowing hot metal. Nothing but disconnected from context witness statements. No analysis of whether it really was steel or some other metals (there was more than just steel in the towers). Two: All of you keep insisting the hot fires weeks after the fact is proof of thermite use, ignoring the fact that thermite burns itself out in seconds. It couldn't possibly be the reson the ground fires burned so hot for so long.

    By the way: all this talk about NORAD ignores the fact that their primary mission back then was dealing with incoming threats originating from outside the US borders, not threats originating from inside.

    This is what I meanb by not studying primary sources. Can any of you claim to have used any arguments not produced primarily fo internet consumption? All I ever see used are the same old talking points that ever conspiracy fantasy site uses. No critical thinking applies. That behavior is so sheeplike. And you accuse folks who listen to fact and logic of being deluded?

    By Blogger Elmondohummus, at 10:43 AM  

  • Norad stood down.

    Someone was inserting blips on their radar all day, who had this ability? Why did they continue to do it well after both towers had already been struck and demolished? Oh, but you don't care about the reality of the situation, it's easier to just deny it. Hit your easy button all you need, there are real men and women out there tha tare taking care of all your problems for you. I'd just suggest that you at least give them a fair and honest chance and presenting what they feel is evidence, regardless of how impossible you may believe it, things happen every single day that you wouldn't believe, it's no excuse to ignore the facts.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:22 AM  

  • "Norad stood down."

    No proof. Only allegation. Evidence points to the contrary, that they were in fact aware but inadequate to the challenge. Here's one source that lends credence towards that view:


    That's still a terrible thing to contemplate - that the apparatus charged with defending US airspace wasn't capable of handling the reality of a scenario they'd considered in years past - but it's a heck of a lot more realistic explanation than believing in some conspiracy that allowed the attack.

    I've seen the allegation about NORAD standing down, I've seen some articles charging this, but to be blunt, I've not seen any real proof of it. Many allegations, no hard evidence. And again, tapes from that day argue the opposite.

    Assuming you're the same anonymous from before, I noticed you're now dodging the steel argument. It's a fact that it's a "canard" i.e. "a false or baseless, usually derogatory story, report, or rumor". Why is it that you all make one allegation, then switch to another when the first is debunked? And then, go back to the first allegation when you think you have a fresh audience? That's intellectual dishonesty. The steel canard is debunked. That cannot be used as evidence supporting the conspiracy fantasies. So now, you all switch to the NORAD allegation?

    If I were even remotely confident that you conspiracy fantasists were actually attempting to discover truth, I'd give you all allowances, but I simply cannot believe your protestations. When given the truth, you all move to another "question", which in reality is either a misinterpretation, sometimes deliberate, or some construct not reflecting reality. You're all not interested in the truth; you simply want to rail against the government, the "official story", neocons... take your pick. You all claim to be doing your civic duty in questioning the government, but you've missed the fact that such questioning must be informed. It must be based in fact and intelligent analysis, not rumor and unfounded allegation. You've all missed that.

    Try applying some critical thinking to these conspiracy fantasies. No one - no one - has explained how government would've been able to install the explosives to destroy the Twin Towers, for example, yet so many of you are alleging controlled demolitions. No critical thinking is being used. There's no way you all will discover the truth if all you continue to do is believe in fantasies about thermite and government duplicity. Question things. Question why people allege that NORAD (all caps, BTW, it's an acronym) stood down. Question why people keep bringing up the steel melting fantasy without thinking. Then you'll get at the truth. Not until then.

    By Blogger Elmondohummus, at 8:07 PM  

  • It is always a distracting comment when someone is asking "why would the government do this?". Why the government would do something is not part of a serial path in understanding HOW something was done.

    Example: If the towers came down in free fall speed, it would be obvious that there was some sort of asistance. That should be the point of debate, NOT anything else. If you agree that it fell at free fall speed (all "official" reports acknowledge this) then there needs to be an explanation as to HOW it fell at free fall speed... not who.

    First things first... there would be no need to insert a red herring

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:20 AM  

  • Larry your in a state of denial!
    Whoever spoke of bombs?
    There were no bombs, simply demolition explosives and wires. You clearly haven’t read the countless reports by specialists in their fields including physicists who without any hesitation have put their reputations on the line.
    The world trade centers were brought down by explosives and for two simple reasons:
    1. Larry Silverstein would pocket about 5 billion dollars in insurance payouts which no doubt he shared with his neo-conservative buddies at the top.
    2. your government wanted to get the nation to rally behind their plans to invade Iraq ( for the purpose of trying to establish control of middle east oil production ), and blamed the demolition on Osama Bin laden, who incidentally denied all knowledge at the start.
    Tell me, if you were a terrorist and were to blame for such an event, surely you wouldn’t deny it? You would be proud that your plan was a success. To deny that you did it would be nonsensical.
    The internet is awash with conspiracy theories of the wtc collapse, the official version of which, is itself nothing more than a conspiracy theory.
    The problem with the official story, is that it doesn’t stand up under scrutiny. Not even under light scrutiny.
    Face the fact buddy, Your government, the government of the USA and the neo-cons behind it, are nothing more than murderous villains of the highest order who will stop at nothing to protect their own agenda.
    Its sad and unbelievable I know, but the fact remains that some things are true, whether or not we choose to believe it…

    By Anonymous rw@sces.co.uk, at 5:26 PM  

  • Evidence WAS found! The EPA admitted that it found traces of explosive materials in the rubble. Google EPA chemical traces 911.

    Get your history and facts straight. Learn to do REAL research. Thanks. You'll wake up some day hopefully.

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