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Friday, October 06, 2006

WTC Elevator Trapped Documentary on A&E Last Night

Adding more first-person evidence to the lack of bombs in the WTC was this special which I watched last night. It was stories of survivors in Elevators at WTC.

Each tower had 99 elevators. 99 ! That's how all the jet fuel fireballs hit the lower floors and started fires down below - all those elevator shafts !!

Think about it in these terms: What kind of a mess do you think it would cause pouring a 55 gallon drum of kerosene down a stairway or an elevator shaft and lighting it on fire? Well, imagine if more than 180 of those 55 gallon barrels was poured down the four stairwells and and the 99 elevators at the same time and lit on fire. No wonder people got incinerated and everything on multiple floors caught on fire !!

One guy who was virtually down at the ground lobby sat in his elevator alone trapped until about 2 minutes before his tower fell. The South Tower collapsing is what allowed him to get out because the power went off and he could finally open his elevator doors without the electronic lock keeping it closed. He said there was jet fuel leaking into his elevator seeping down the walls. So even UNBURNED jet fuel made it to the ground floors, which makes the fact that fireballs came out of the lower floor elevators completely understandable !! Many elevators at impact of the first jet had their cables sliced and fell to the bottom, causing the "explosions" some people heard. An elevator falling 40 or 50 floors will tend to make an explosive sound when it hits bottom !!

One elevator operator on the 78th floor at the time the plane hit on the 93rd floor said "the back wall of the elevator which was wood paneling just peeled down from the top and the fireball came in, caught everyone's upper body on fire, then sucked back out the back of the elevator." Think of the terror those people must have felt !! Talk about "TERRORISM." She says she has not recovered emotionally yet - she is paranoid and scared of everything now. She trusts nothing or no one. That's exactly how the terrorists want to affect us, and why we SHOULD be at war with them. No one should be able to do this to any American citizen and get away with it. Never mind that she survived - she was changed forever and not in a good way.

None of the people they interviewed or either of the authors of books about the elevator survivors said anything about any BOMBS. Not one single person who spent an hour or more or even less said anything about hearing any explosions, other than the sounds RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING seconds after the plane crash of the severed cable elevators dropping.

11 Comments:

  • Well, we know how the fire suppression systems where created to seal off the buildings in three sections. We also know that none of those shafts went from the bottom all the way to the top. But, to keep your line of thinking up, we do know all the elevators where located in the central core columns you know those 47 massive steel columns that carried the full load of the building despite an outer structure that was crafted to carry it's own weight. We also know that the planes hit on the 80th ish floors of these towers.
    First check out this pic.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:World_Trade_Center_Building_Design_with_Floor_and_Elevator_Arrangment.jpg
    From this picture we can see that most of the shafts where broken into thirds, and we have one possible spot left for this fuel to have flowed down, in the express elevator but, even this one only went to the 70-73rd floor. So, if you really want to try and figure this part out of it we'd need to figure out first.

    1. Which tower was it that the lobbies suffered damages?
    With this we could figure out exactly where the plane went in, and how many floors the fuel would of had to travel to get to the express elevator shaft.

    2. How far did this fluid travel? if it's 80 floors I'm coming out with about 1080ft.

    But, then you'd have to consider from the FEMA report, that most of the fuel would of burn up in the first 10 mins, so it's not like we have a constant source of flow for this fluid to travel down these 1000ft.

    Just a few thoughts, did you check out "Iraq for Sale" yet?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:15 PM  

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    Do you understand what this means?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:26 PM  

  • No one said the fuel flowed for any length of time. When the fuel was disbursed in the explosion, some of the fuel ignited and burned right then on the floors where the plane exploded.

    But we know a lot of it went down stairwells and elevator shafts, on fire.

    Even some of the fuel, unburned, made it to the bottom floors lobby.

    All that "shows or proves" is that there was an AWFUL LOT of fuel if there was enough to filter down unburned to the lobby.

    By Blogger Larry, at 7:45 AM  

  • It's kind of a joke to really think that some of that fuel made it to the lobby. But, even if you want to believe that nonsense it doesn't account for the damage seen in the lobbies, or in the floors below the lobbies. I'm sorry that this happened to our country but, we have to be strong enough to look at the evidence honestly or your truly just wasting your own time, and the countries time, for if it's true what these people claims, and everyday it appears more true to me, then time is really of the essence. Did you watch "iraq for sale" Or are you only here for one reason?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:38 AM  

  • If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.

    By Anonymous James Madison, at 8:41 AM  

  • No matter what you think of 9-11 one thing in the current discourse of this country remains factual and well known and I think this young Patriot explained it better than I could:

    AMY GOODMAN: Marshall, why did you join the military?

    SGT. MARSHALL THOMPSON: I love my country. And I really wanted to serve it.

    AMY GOODMAN: When did you join?

    SGT. MARSHALL THOMPSON: I joined in 1999.

    AMY GOODMAN: Before the 2001 attacks.

    SGT. MARSHALL THOMPSON: Yes. I was deployed to Kosovo during the 2001 attacks.

    And I've been very proud of my service. And it's just been a hard time in Iraq, because this war is unjust. And no amount of patriotism that I have can change that.

    AMY GOODMAN: How did you come to the conclusion that it's unjust?

    SGT. MARSHALL THOMPSON: Well, it happened before the war started. I was on the fence. And when Colin Powell addressed the UN, I believed him, like most people did, I think.

    But then there was something in me that kept bothering me, and it was that the decision to go to war with Iraq was based on fear, fear of something that hadn't happened yet. And those are never good decisions. We can't make fear-based decisions.

    So I decided that even if they had weapons of mass destruction, that I was going to be opposed to the war.

    Then, years later when I went to Iraq, spent a year there, saw what happened, it was only reinforced.

    By Anonymous truthism, at 3:31 PM  

  • http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Olbermann-HabeusCorpus.wmv

    This is what matters...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:58 PM  

  • "None of the people they interviewed or either of the authors of books about the elevator survivors said anything about any BOMBS. Not one single person who spent an hour or more or even less said anything about hearing any explosions, other than the sounds RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING seconds after the plane crash of the severed cable elevators dropping."

    What about Bush's actions disproves this? What actions has Bush taken that proves the assertions of steel melting, thermite supposedly being found? What actions has Bush taken that prove the supposed "faster than freefall" collapse rate. What actions has Bush taken that proves WTC 7 was taken down by controlled demolition?

    Politics does not explain physics, people. Hate Bush all you want, and vote against him as is your right, but don't try to use that as an agrument against Larry's point, which was that not one witnesses identified in the A&E special heard any bombs going off, as controlled demolition fantasies assert.

    By Blogger Elmondohummus, at 5:16 PM  

  • http://www.cryingwolf.deconstructingiraq.org.uk/
    This tells who is behind death squads in Iraq .
    I can't be bothered with the idiots who continue to believe the official tripe (whatever it is as no real explanation exists)
    The more I look the more convinced I am !

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:08 AM  

  • Hhahaha, pathetic, Youre running an uphill battle. Every man and his bow-wow knows it was an Inside Job now.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:26 PM  

  • Anonymous said...
    Well, we know how the fire suppression systems where created to seal off the buildings in three sections. We also know that none of those shafts went from the bottom all the way to the top.


    I believe that you are wrong. One of the shafts, a service elevator, did go from the top to the bottom.

    Using logic, it would probably make sense that many of the shafts were open for a lot further than the elevators went. For instance, the express elevator to the 78th floor sky lobby probably had an open shaft all the way to the top of the tower. There was probably some attempt to "top it off" above th 78th floor -- there was something in "102 Minutes" about the architects trying to make each floor airtight (shades of Titanic) -- but clearly that airtight-ness was not successful (witness massive smoke traveling up floors within minutes of the airliners hitting).

    If smoke can travel up the shafts in minutes, then airliner fuel can travel down the shafts. The shafts did not cease to exist, just because there was no elevator service on that particular floor.

    But, to keep your line of thinking up, we do know all the elevators where located in the central core columns you know those 47 massive steel columns that carried the full load of the building despite an outer structure that was crafted to carry it's own weight.

    Both the core columns and the outer tube columns shared the weight of the builiding. It was something like 40-60 (I can't remember which was which right at the moment).

    We shouldn't have gone into Iraq, in my opinion. I knew Colin Powell's "evidence" was full of it, even at the time.

    But we face a monstrous enemy in Al-Qaeda. They planned, carried out, and murdered thousands of our citizens. I for one am not comfortable with ignoring that little fact.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:45 AM  

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